Black men getting with Non Black women? Everyone cool with that?

I look around and I see it more and more. Black men dating, courting, and marrying outside the race. I Wonder how people feel about that. Are all the good brothers taken? If so, what is it about our community that single motherhood has risen to astronomical levels (as high as 80% according to some statistics) while other races seem to find a way to get married and keep a man (if they want to) even if its our own men. I am speaking in general. What is it about us (as statistics show) that we just can't seem to stay together? Is everyone cool with that? Maybe its a new day. Oh lets remember, you need not be PC (after all we are Muslim and Muslim in America isn't so PC right now). But we are Muslim and we have respect, so please be respectful. Jazaks.

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Permalink Reply by Tajah Umar on July 30, 2009 at 3:26pm: Shiin said:
This is a muslim site. The question you posted is more relevant on a KKK site.

No it's not. That's a statement that to me, seems to be made out of the ignorance of the non-black community. To assume that race is not still an issue to this day implies that many have not learned the lessons they should have learned from the past. It's something that, as an outsider looking in, you may never understand. But just be cautious when making such a statement.

Permalink Reply by Alana on July 30, 2009 at 4:33pm: *Raise eyebrow look* on your response, comment is waaaaaaaaaaay out of line on here. People have their preferences on whoever they want to date or marry!

Shiin said:
This is a muslim site. The question you posted is more relevant on a KKK site.

Permalink Reply by Dante on July 30, 2009 at 5:24pm: they erased my remark? scumbags...

Finesse Hodges said:
Shukran Dante. Yes I know him, in fact, he was my wali. He is a very kind man, a good brother to all he knows. As I said, whether he is guilty of what he is being charged with, I don't know. But I am tired of letting people, even in blogs, talk about Islam as they do. So that is why I have been trying to fight. Even though they are deleting my comments, they are seeing them, which means they are thinking about it- and that's good enough for me for now. I am fighting because their problem is our problem, and I refuse to let people say things like "muslims are wild dogs, etc". I just can't do it anymore. Shukran again to you Dante, really, it means a lot- though they erased your remark too, as I said, they still had no choice but to see it and think about it.

Permalink Reply by Abu Sufyan on August 3, 2009 at 7:12pm: This needing to be on a KKK Site?? I dont think so. Its a real issue here in the US. So speak not without knowledge and respect. The prophet (s) said "If you have nothing good to say... Shut up (yes Usqoot, means shut up)" So umm... Usqoot.

Shiin said:
This is a muslim site. The question you posted is more relevant on a KKK site.

Permalink Reply by Abu Sufyan on August 3, 2009 at 7:15pm: Well, Dante, if you feel so passionate about creating a discussion about Muslim Men marrying Non Muslim women... Then umm.... why not do that rather than add ratings and perpetuation to my discussion??

Dante said:
I istill feelthe topic should be Muslim men marrying non Muslim women. Since that would be a bigger and more Ummah orientated issue rather than something so menial such as race.

Permalink Reply by Abu Sufyan on August 3, 2009 at 7:24pm: The issue is not about superior races. Its about an issue within the community. If you and Br. Shiin do not feel this topic is relevant to you, then simply... Be silent. Every time you reply and say something in this discussion, it adds more and more ratings to this topic, so unless you want that... Remain Silent :)

Dante said:
thatswhy when i was mod lol i closed it its a very thin line between whos race is superior. And whows is deserving of this and that. heh but yea

Shiin said:
This is a muslim site. The question you posted is more relevant on a KKK site.

Permalink Reply by Dante on August 4, 2009 at 12:23pm: Your responses are late. And even more so if you wish to address me address me seperate from shiin since our pickings at the topic are quite different. shiin believes its relevant to a kkk site and I believe its about Racial superiority my opinions about the topic are just as welcome as the topic itself it.

Permalink Reply by Abu Sufyan on August 4, 2009 at 8:30pm: I wonder why when we talk about a racial minority, then its about racial superiority or some KKKrap versus an issue within the community... Its sad, we can talk about Micheal Jackson dying and Gay Muslims all day long, but one thing about Black people and Dun Dun DUN... It's taboo... heheh..I hope others do not think its about superiority. But for sure Dante, in all honesty, I want you to state your opinion A LOT. Because your opinion equals ratings whether ppl like them or not :)

Permalink Reply by Dante on August 4, 2009 at 10:03pm: Because when you mention racial minorities people go off the deep end with it as a pose to just sticking to the topic. and Its never about anything constructive. Black men getting with non black women everyone ok with that? what does that matter wouldnt the place for that be on blackplanet or something on a muslim site it should be leaned towards Muslim men getting with blah blah or why there is a Race issue in the ummah and why we have asian and Arab brothers

showing racism towards blacks when the athan was called by a black and the Prophet's favorite sahaba was black. Or why we have people showing racism towards Arabs when the Prophet himself was such. THAT is what should be mentioned when minorities are brought up. Not... whether or not a Black man should be socially acceptable to his family and the Black side of the ummah because he marries a white or a persian. But because maybe he could have found a good muslimah or has overlooked a muslimah and gone for kaffir or People of the book.

THAT is why minorities are a taboo and Most sites try to refrain from bringing them up.

Permalink Reply by Sekina Yakub on August 6, 2009 at 9:00am: Salaam all
You know it seems that when the muslims are busy bickering with one another they fail to see who the real enemy is... a black man dating/ marrying outside his race may offend other black people, but it happens..and we shouldn't let that make us feel bad about ourselves, or lessen our self-esteem. We should all hold our heads up with confidence that we have been chosen to be Khalifahs on this earth, regardless of our skin colour. We should work towards seeing the world for what it trully is, a place of tests and trials and that its not what happens to us that matters but our ability to respond or react to it.
'just my two pence worth'
Dante said:
Because when you mention racial minorities people go off the deep end with it as a pose to just sticking to the topic. and Its never about anything constructive. Black men getting with non black women everyone ok with that? what does that matter wouldnt the place for that be on blackplanet or something on a muslim site it should be leaned towards Muslim men getting with blah blah or why there is a Race issue in the ummah and why we have asian and Arab brothers

showing racism towards blacks when the athan was called by a black and the Prophet's favorite sahaba was black. Or why we have people showing racism towards Arabs when the Prophet himself was such. THAT is what should be mentioned when minorities are brought up. Not... whether or not a Black man should be socially acceptable to his family and the Black side of the ummah because he marries a white or a persian. But because maybe he could have found a good muslimah or has overlooked a muslimah and gone for kaffir or People of the book.

THAT is why minorities are a taboo and Most sites try to refrain from bringing them up.

Permalink Reply by Omar Muhammad on August 25, 2009 at 11:47am: I always find it interesting when people who claim race doesn't matter follow up their assertions with a bunch of generalizations about that particular race (i.e. black people). It is not haraam to love one's people so long as it doesn't give way to hating other people and in loving your people you are likely to be passionate with about the issues facing them.

On a base level you are at least supposed to like who and what you are, that doesn't mean you can't like other as well but liking others to the exclusion of those who are like you points to a problem. There is also a long and well documented history of conditioning that has led many black people to continue with destructive behaviors just one of which is a dislike of our own people. So this is very relevant and if this condition leads to a lot of black Muslim women not being married then it becomes a muslim issue because since marriage is half our deen and we want the best for our muslims sisters.

So it is not necessarily that no black muslim men should marry non-black muslim women, but when there pattern is a pattern like what we are seeing then the mentality that causes needs to be talked about and inshallah we can rid ourselves of some of the negative stereotypes regarding black women.